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Book eleven defines justice as the measured evilness of your sin being suffered by and commited against the offender in an amplified, eternal version. For example, Tityos' punishment is a measured representation of rape; the vultures rifling his innards and his inability to push them off represent the invasion and helpessness Leto felt while being raped; it also represents the vindictive justice of the gods. The god's version of justice as represented in the novel by Odysseus' journey and the punishments in Hades illuminates the theme of the god's absolute jurisdiction over all mortal and immortal affairs.

 

 

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Mary Claire:

Book eleven defines justice by having criminals fall victim to symbolic variations of their crime for all of eternity.

 

 

 

 

Gabi:

Book eleven defines justice as forcing the offender to eternally live through the amplified evil sins they have committed in life.

 

 

Rachael:

In Book Eleven, the reader can see that Hades administers punishments based on the severity of the crime committed.



Oedipus’s harmatia is his need to be noble. He was warned by Teiresias that he was the murderer of his father and married to his mother, but he did not listen. Teiresias had insulted Oedipus earlier by calling him ignorant thus Oedipus dismissed everything he said as foolishness and attempt to throw him out off the throne. This was his subconscious ignoring the statement because it would mean Oedipus would be exiled and loose his nobility. This shows what is most important to people in the novel, and how they would react or do in order to avoid losing it.

 

 

 

Comments (37)

Anonymous said

at 10:27 am on Sep 25, 2008

Justice in Book 11 of the Odyssey is an eternal punishment which amplifies the evilness of your sin.

Anonymous said

at 10:29 am on Sep 25, 2008

Multiple people can comment at once.

Anonymous said

at 10:32 am on Sep 25, 2008

Book eleven defines justice as repeatedly enduring the same pain you caused others through your sin.

Anonymous said

at 10:34 am on Sep 25, 2008

Book eleven defines justice as one's evil deeds flung back at them in some torturous representation of what they have done; suffering it eternally.

Anonymous said

at 10:34 am on Sep 25, 2008

Book 11 defines justice as having the criminal commit their previous sin in an intensified version for all of eternity.

Anonymous said

at 10:35 am on Sep 25, 2008

The definition of justice in book eleven is that the punishment fits the crime; the punishment is just as evil but it is turned onto the offender and repeated over and over.

Anonymous said

at 10:35 am on Sep 25, 2008

Book eleven defines justice as wrongdoers becoming the eternal victims of symbolic versions of their own sins.

Anonymous said

at 10:36 am on Sep 25, 2008

Justice is defined in book eleven as evil returning to the original source of wrongdoing.

Anonymous said

at 10:36 am on Sep 25, 2008


Book eleven defines justice by forcing the sinner to endure their original sin in an amplified, eternal version.

Anonymous said

at 10:37 am on Sep 25, 2008

book eleven defines justice as making the offender suffer an ampilified version of their own sins for eternity.

Anonymous said

at 10:37 am on Sep 25, 2008

I can't quite figure it out how to make the sentence better. I do not even quite understand what the sentence is trying to say, therefore, I cannot reword it properly.

Anonymous said

at 10:38 am on Sep 25, 2008

Book eleven defines justice by forcing the criminal to endure their own sin to utmost degree.

Anonymous said

at 10:38 am on Sep 25, 2008

Book 11 defines justice as being subject to the painful repetition of your sin for eternity.

Anonymous said

at 10:41 am on Sep 25, 2008

Book eleven portrays justice as the vengeance against one’s unspeakable sins in an eternal, dreadful fashion.

Anonymous said

at 6:07 pm on Sep 25, 2008

Book eleven defines justice as the retribution of one's sin; the offenders suffer for the crimes they committed through excruciating variations of their sins.
-Greg N.

Anonymous said

at 11:45 am on Sep 26, 2008

looks good

Anonymous said

at 11:46 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus ignored this statement because it would lead to his downfall as king.

Anonymous said

at 11:48 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus ignored this statement because it meant he would be exiled and lose his nobility.

Anonymous said

at 11:49 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus dismissed Teiresias' statement because it would mean that Oedipus would loose his nobilty and be exiled.

Anonymous said

at 11:49 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus' subconscious ignored Teiresias' accusations because if he admitted that they were true, he would have thrown himself off his throne with his own decree.

Anonymous said

at 11:50 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus’s ignores Teiresias’s prediction because Oedipus is afraid that he would be exiled and lose his nobility if it were true.

Anonymous said

at 11:50 am on Sep 26, 2008

Ben Datko:
Oedipus’s subconscious ignored the remark because he fears losing his nobility and would be exiled.

Anonymous said

at 11:51 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus ignored his subconscious telling him to dismiss what teiresias said in order to keep his status as king

Anonymous said

at 11:51 am on Sep 26, 2008

Subconsciously Oedipus ignored this statement as to avoid being exiled and loosing his nobility.

Anonymous said

at 11:51 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus ignored the prophecy because he did not want to think about losing his nobility.

Anonymous said

at 11:51 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus chose to ignore Teiresias because if he acknowledged what Teiresias said as the truth it would mean that he would be exiled.

Anonymous said

at 11:51 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus’s casting off of Teiresias’s statement was caused by Oedipus’s subconscious ignoring the statement, because this would cause Oedipus to be exiled, therefore he would lose his nobility.

Anonymous said

at 11:52 am on Sep 26, 2008

He ignored everything Teiresias said because the statement would lead to him being dethroned as king and exiled from the city.

Anonymous said

at 11:52 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus chose to ignore his subconscious for fear of being exiled.

Anonymous said

at 11:54 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus need to be noble triggered him to refuse Teiresias claim because that means he would be exiled and no longer king.

Anonymous said

at 11:55 am on Sep 26, 2008


Teiresias predictions were ignored by Oedipus in fear of losing his nobility and being exiled.

Anonymous said

at 11:56 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus subconsiously disregards the prophecy because it meant he would be exiled from his kingdom and lose his noble status.

Anonymous said

at 11:56 am on Sep 26, 2008


Teiresias' predictions were ignored by Oedipus in fear of losing his nobility and being exiled.

Anonymous said

at 11:57 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus ignored the statement because his subconscious wanted to protect him from being exiled and losing his nobility.

Anonymous said

at 11:59 am on Sep 26, 2008


Oedipus tries to ignore the news because if it is confirmed, it could ruin his nobility and he could be exiled.

Anonymous said

at 11:59 am on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus chose to ignore Teiresia's prediction for fear of losing his nobility and being exciled

Anonymous said

at 12:01 pm on Sep 26, 2008

Oedipus tried to disregard what Teiresias said because he was fearful of no longer being king.

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